Check out the first contest posted in the new format:
http://stocklogos.com/contests
Remember you only need to upload an image (or several). And you will be notified by client when your work is rated.
Please add lots of your best work so we can show the designer power of this community to more clients.
DO NOT POST A LINK to your logo or ask for feedback in comments. The comments are strictly for asking questions to clarify the contest.
If you find any problems with the contests please let me know!
289 Comments
Where are the rules about contests? Specifically about $ and what to expect.
Perhaps "how it works" is a better way of putting it.
Good questions!
The price shows below the contest. $200. The winner will get the $200. Client payed in advance. The deadline is also below the contest.
I will put the rules for designers somewhere next to the contest, right now it's on the sell logo page.
Here it is:
"Contest logos are specifically designed for a contest posted by a client. These logos must answer the requirements listed by client in the contest. Pay attention to the Open/Closed status of the contests and the available remaining time on them. You are not allowed to upload or change a contest logo after the contest is closed.
If client rates your contest logo, you will get an email notification. The options are "Off brief" meaning the logo didn't answer client's requirements, "Not liked" meaning the logo didn't meet the client's expectations, "Liked" meaning that the client liked your option. "Liked" doesn't mean it's the winning logo.
You will receive a "Winner" notification separately if the client has chosen your logo. Only winning logos are payed the listed amount. You will also receive instructions how to upload the vector files for client for the winning logo. You will be payed once the files have been handed over to client.
In most cases the contests are open, so designers will be able to see each other's work and the feedback given by client. This however doesn't give the designers a permission to copy each other's concepts. If the contest requirements request for a certain specific theme than the similarity will be unavoidable, but obvious copying will not be allowed and the designs will be deleted and the designer may face a ban for repeated offence.
Some contests however are "Blind" meaning that designers can't see each other's designs while the contest is still open.
Contest logos will not remain on the site for sale after the contest winner is chosen and the contest is closed. If you didn't win the contest, after the contest is closed you can modify the contest logo for general use and upload to the store."
Awesome. Is the $200 before fees? Or does the designer get the entire amt? Is the contest guaranteed? Is the buyer notifies up uploaded designs?
It's what the designer gets. Client pays $250 and we get $50. Guaranteed in a sense that at least one designer gets payed yes. Buyer is not notified by each design, but he's notified when all designs are up and he can check in any time.
Now I'm really confused about how much the designer "actually" gets. Isn't the $50 the price for posting the brief, then from the $200 this rule applies "You get approximately 70% of the sale price (25% goes to StockLogos and 5% for payment companies"? So the designer gets $140?
No, on contest you get exactly the price listed. $200. We charge the client $250. The 70% rule only applies to store logos. Shall edit the Sell logo page to make it more clear?
Oh, cool!
Are there rules about modifying/customizing logos that are already in the store and uploading them to contests?
Yes, designers are free to modify until the contest is closed.
Sorry, what I meant was can I upload a logo I have for sale in the store to a contest after I have customized it for the contest?
Yes, I don't see why not. But be careful about the double sale. If you sell the logo in the store you have to pull it from the contest and vice versa.
gotcha
It says that "some contests however are Blind meaning that designers can't see each other's designs while the contest is still open." If some are blind and some are not, how do we know if a contest is blind or not?
Thank you,
Spintherism.
When it's blind it will say it is blind. When it doesn't say it it's not blind. The current one for example is not blind.
You can see how a blind contest looks like, client just posted one: http://stocklogos.com/contest/cahootz
Great changes to the whole brief system. You have really listened to, an implemented what many of us have been asking for as far as changes to this aspect of Stock Logos. Really appreciate all of your hard work with these updates.
Thanks again.
When I click on the main CONTESTS link I am only seeing the Integrated Enterprise Solutions Pvt Ltd contest but not this one. The only way we can get to it from what I am seeing is from your link. How do we see future contests.
you sure? Cahootz is right about the other one. red text
Thanks yeah I completely missed it.
I wonder if the blind contest won't get lost between non-blind since they will likely not have thumbs.
This new contests does look great, btw!
Maybe a holding thumb for new briefs with something like 'Be the First To Submit On'. For blind briefs similar thumbs with 'blind' on etc.
I must admit my eye took me straight to the brief which already had logo's submitted..
Yes, I agree. We need to find a solution to this...
I can't edit my post!
Anyway completely ignore the above post from me I found the link, it's in red right above the first brief.
Great changes to the brief system.
Ivan, maybe it would be useful to see how many submissions a blind contest has. Just for curiosity or to gauge the popularity of said contest.
Yes, I agree. I will add.
I may be wrong or maybe not...
I think first logo contests are just a test - test to the system performance, eliminating bugs and ect.
If that is true (or not) i will invite every one, proven or not, designer to join it. It will be helpful cause to show how new system works - for the price of brief award! :-)
Even better - after a few weeks, when the real contests coms, every potential client will see a closed contest full of good looking logos and that will improve contest activity on SL.
Actually I like the tests - my creation needs a "fuel" every day.
paint.box
Not a test, it's for real actually.
Ivan, it seems that there's something wrong with the "blindness" of the contests. I see one of the submission of the current blind contest...
Yes.! i have talked with him..he said he'll correct it soon. Don't upload your logo in that contest if you don't want it open for public.
This is fixed now, is it not?
Yes, it's fixed now.
On contest page:- " We have money back guarantee. If you don't like any of the logos presented we will refund the contest package costs."
What if client gets lot of options?
He'll gets ideas. He'll get his money back. Then what the use?
Well, if he doesn't like any we can't force him to buy right? And he can't use any of the ideas legally.
Yes Ivan, you are right.
But then again that's a chance the Client Must Take.
Remember, we, the designers take the same risk, investing our time, talent and ideas.
We also have NO guarantees that this "Client" will not walk away with all OUR ideas, and do something with them else ware.
Think about it!
I agree with aadi.
Hi Ivan,
what about the non-winning logos submitted to the contest - will they be automatically included in the Store section like on the old site?
No, you will have to manually re-upload. This is because in the old system clients sometimes complained that their logos with their names remained on the site.
The contests need more work:
1. Guaranteed contest - the client accepts in a form of contract with SL not to ask refund and to award winner. This could be done by extending the contests if he doesn't like any design till the end of the contest.
2. More info about the requirements - type of the design - symbol, wordmark, emblem and so on. Everything that can help us understand better client's expectations.
3.Option to upload images of exsting logos that client likes and are in the direction he wants to go with his design.
4.@Siny - for the contest we only upload images without the source files so i guess that for the store you have to upload again with all the files.
Hi ghostd7,
your propositions regarding the Contest upgrades are excellent.
The client should get some kind of Questionnaire form with as much as possible design guidelines to fill-in.
I can understand Ivan (I had similar experiences): too much stuff to fill in for the client could be overwhelming...
But, there is a way around this - first, the client should pay for the contest and on the second step she/he should fill the Questionnaire...that way she/he will be motivate to give as much details important for the logo design process...
1. In the service industry you must give your money back if the client is not happy with the service you provided. Plus it's not even enforceable. If client wants he can simply call his bank and tell them we didn't provide the service he expected and they will take the money back from us in no time. Clients are highly protected in this way. In a highly competitive environment this is the only way. If you don't like this, don't participate in the contest.
2. What specifically shall we ask? I can do that, but yes we have to ask as few questions as possible. For example most clients don't know the difference between symbol, wordmark, emblem, etc. They would quit on such questions.
3. They do have this option right now. They can upload any files.
4. Correct.
I totally disagree regarding point 1.
In prepaid constests, customers pay in advance and they must not be able to recover the money. This means that many more designers take part in these contests (just see crowdsourcing sites) because there is a secure prize. The customer cannot recover his money, if not satisfied can ask to extend the duration of the contest for a few days. This is how it works on other sites, just look around...
That's right. In their ToS it clearly says that when they guarantee their contest they lose the money back option and they accept to pick a winner. Of course most of them guarantee the price after few submitions seeing that they will definatly get a design from there. About the design brief take a look at 99designs or designcrowd how they've managed the brief section.
What we can do is guarantee a minimum number of submissions. Let's say 50 or more. If they get less than that they can claim money back. Is that fair?
If a Contest is not getting to many submissions, most probably its because they are paying to little.
Me, my self, I do not design for any contest that is paying less than $450.00.
I totally agree with chrisworks. The Client at the End MUST choose a winning logo.
NO MONEY BACK.
We all worked our __________.
Some one MUST get paid.
Ivan, on the current non-blind contest the rows of logos are too close to each other. The comment number/icon and the rating status are too close to the logo underneath. The spacing should be similar to the latest uploads section to avoid confusion.
OK!
I've noticed this. It looks like the rating and comment bubble is for the logo below when it is for the logo above.
Agreed. Will do.
Hi Everyone,
i think if the brief is blind , then we need some information
like
colors to use or not to use
logos clients like ( may upload or refer to ) to know the style that client need or like
the company tagline if is there
second i think the lowest price for the brief is not fair !! who agree ?
I think we should offer this low price point as an option. Designers are free to participate or not at any price point.
I agree about colour choice, maybe a field on colours for the client and a field for type of logo he wants wordmark, abstract, web 2.0 etc. The CH could put this in Special Requirements but I'm thinking a lot wont do this without being prompted.
From what I can see the lowest package for a brief is $250, winning designer gets $200. I think this is fair enough, it's all dependent on how much work you want to put in to it. Maybe it should be stressed to CH that the higher the price the more designs he will get.
As a designer won the contest, it's obvious that he should work hard to win .. hard work deserve more than 200 - payment companies - tax share ! that's my opinion.
what is CH ?
CH means contest holder.
They can have contests that pay more.. I think $200 is a good starting point however. Honestly though with the way contests are.. it is always best to participate with a company brief that inspires you. I very rarely look at payment amount when it comes to contests. How many people will go for the $500+ contests and enter in a design that just does not suit the company because your design style may not mesh well with they are looking for. Then you have nothing ! ;)
I think 200$ is a fair price and it's also the starting price for a big number of crowdsourcing sites.
The problem I'm seeing here is that the number of contestants is enormous compared to the prize. I honestly don't participate in such carnage, there are places where the odds of winning are much higher. Don't know, maybe it's the effect of the few open contests after the closing time...
I'm unsure about the color choices. They can provide this info if they want now, but this is the designer's job to know what color work to achieve a certain effect. We can't expect client to know that.
I agree with you Ivan, the designer should base his design in what he believes is best for that company.
Thank you very much ..
i will overlook on contests .. generally.
I guess there should be some rule to post a contest...like contest holder should enter say at least 50 word in description.
otherwise designer will not get proper idea what client actually wants....also it will be beneficial for client as they are paying they are supposed to get good result.
:)
you're right, the client should specify what his/her company needs from the logo.
But I don't think that you can force the client to write 50 words.. Doesn't really make sense because you can do it in less (sometimes) But if the designer doesn't get a clue on what the client wants, the designer doesn't have to work on the contest... But that's my personal opinion :)
I wish there was a way to force clients to write good briefs, but word count is not a good way. You can say 100 words that have no meaning or say just 20 that describes the job perfectly.
I assume that self-promotion comments such as these are against the rules? http://stocklogos.com/contest/mobilegamesnet
Not at all. Deleted and designer got his first warning.
Don't you think so guyz? that price should be variable in contest instead fixed?
i mean client should allowed to select his own price & not just 250 ,500 etc.
of course range will be 250-2000.
Hey, how the designers will know the rate of his/her logo in the Blind Contest?
Hey, how the designers will know the rate of his/her logo in the Blind Contest?
I think there must be a way to know it
Ok, now I'm a little confused. I submitted a logo for a contest; after a while I received an email stating that the client has 'rated' my logo.
The problem is: I cannot find anywhere on the site (nor in the email itself) how my logo has been rated, or whether it has been liked or judged 'off-brief' (or even disliked), as your instructions say... am I doing something wrong?
Thanks!
L
In my account there are not logos, which I uploaded for the contests. Where are its? Its don't must appear there?
No, only store logos must appear there.
how long does it take for logos to appear in contests after upload?
As I tried - immediately :) That's really nice ^)
are you lime?
Immediately yes. I can see yours. Thanks!
http://stocklogos.com/contest/integrated-enterprise-solutions-pvt-ltd/94282
I can't see that in the competition. Does that mean it has won?
Look harder, it's there.
I'm confused why you wont answer.
I don't want to submit more designs if this competition has already been won.
Thanks.
Nobody can win until the contest is open.
Thanks for clarification.
Ivan, Im 100% that this is not NancyCarter logo:
http://stocklogos.com/contest/integrated-enterprise-solutions-pvt-ltd/94282
Look at designer name. There is a confusion of Grego66 - it's him logo.
paint.box
Yes, it is.
Ok I just checked through the entries. It appears there is a bug on the competitons.
Nancy's design is still there but it is showing a different thumb on the suggested logo's page. I don't know if it is Nancy's thumb or another designers, if it is another designers you might want to get this fixed.
Thanks.
To me, everything looks fine; all thumbnails point to the right logo. Maybe you should provide some screen-shots and browser/system information...
Yes, I am using the latest Google Chrome 18.0.1025.168 m
On the first pic I have highlighted the thumbnail:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg204/scaled.php?server=204&filename=80118005.jpg&res=landing
On the second pic I am showing the logo page that the thumnail links to:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg109/scaled.php?server=109&filename=65058778.jpg&res=landing
Thanks
It's most probably a browser cache issue. I don't see the same a you. The following screenshot was taken three hours ago, just in case and it is still the same I see right now.
http://img85.xooimage.com/files/7/d/c/int-ent-sol-pvt-ltd--346988d.jpg
Try to do a cache refresh in Google Chrome (Ctrl+F5 or Command+F5).
Spintherism.
I was just about to post to confirm this.
It is a cache issue and not a bug. Simply refreshing the browser doesn't get rid of the offending thumb. I did a proper refresh and it started displaying the relevant thumbnail that it was linking to.
Thanks.
I can't see the bug you see, please send me a screenshoot. contact@stocklogos.com
I also sent screenshot to you,
Thanks.
Now it's O.K. Ivan, refreshing user logo works!
But i think you have a problem with LIFO (FIFO) queue of uploaded images. If you use one queue for every uploaded file and two and above designers upload at the same time - you open a door for "hugger-mugger". Your IT must use separated queues for every uploading designer. Just contact me if you want. :-)
paint.box
I know what you're saying, it's a browser cache issue.
No! I open an unused browser (never opened SL) and the contest logo previewing are the same:
http://postimage.org/image/uogixfwrb/
paint.box
Yes, the system has a bug for me. Some logos was previewed with files uploaded from other designer. I'm not sure what is in your case, but look this case:
http://stocklogos.com/contest/burrisimo/94209
and
http://stocklogos.com/contest/burrisimo/94341
The both logos are from different designers, but in main contest previewing they look the same:
http://postimage.org/image/w2xu4bmn9/
But Grego66 this is normal for a clear new structure of one site containing 27K+ logos.
Please be patient, this and many more bugs will be removed soon. I'm sure that Ivan read every row here now. :-)
My best,
paint.box
Just the same problem I come across!
I know PB I am just pointing out a bug.
Look upper, to my answer to Ivan!
It was a response to that post. The part where you told me to be patient! I am patient just pointing out a bloody bug :~)
Sorry for that! :-)
Paint.box, a minute ago I also saw the two logos looking the same in the main contest preview page; exactly like your screenshot above. Then I did a cache refresh in Google Chrome (Ctrl+F5 or Command+F5) and they refreshed to the proper thumbnails. So, it is indeed a cache problem.
Spintherism.
Yes it's a cache issue, sorted :)
Ivan, i want to point some issues with the contest section.
1. Private contest - means does not apear on google search and it is visible only to registered members. This means that the clients add this feature to their contest to keep it private. Then i don't think from a client's point of view that putting these private contests on the front page is right.
2. There is already blind contest that has finished but the submitions are not visible already.
Just wanted to let you know about these things and i believe there will be fixes about this section of the site.
How do we keep track of our contest entries or wins?
It will be added to manage soon. Tx
Can there be some visual distinction between expired and active contests, please? I just spent a chunk of time on a logo for an expired contest that is nested right in the middle active ones! :(
OK. We will make them really grey.
Same thing happened to me. I think the legend 'CLOSED' or something should appear next to the title.
What happens with the closed blind contests? We were supposed to see all entries when they end.
Yes, I think we should allow that. Will work on it.
We should be able to delete our logos from the contest anytime, closed or not. If, for some reason, I change my mind and don't want to participate in the contest anymore, then I should have the right to pull my entry down.
OK. We can do that I think.
http://stocklogos.com/node/add/contest
I think that the jump from $250 to $500 leaves out a lot of potential clients and designers. Unless particularly inspired, I won't touch a contest for $200. But for a prize of $250-$350, I would!
Yes, i would be more interested in a $300-$350 too.
Agreed. We're trying to raise the minmum prize to $300 anyway.
I agree. 350-350 steps would be nice! Any lower price invites a lot of off-brief clutter also. Maybe lower the time with the $200 price level? People will put more time/thought into higher price contest and the clients will be happier with the results.
I think instead of packages allow client to pick his own price which will be from 250 to 2000 or what ever....client will fix his own price like 300,375,450,etc.
I'd rather this too.
We can try it, but usually that's not good. It's best to offer set amounts.
If i upload a logo in the contest after the expiration of that time and the logo contest is not sold can I upload it back to the store logo to re-sell ?..
Yes you can. Yes we can.
correct, thanks!
Thank you.
Your welcome :)
I think my question got deleted with all the other stuff.
There are a few users making a habit of announcing their entries and requesting feedback. How is that handled?
Unnecessary. We should delete it.
When a comment is deleted do they get an email? I mean, they should be reminded of the rules at least.
I will start doing that. Thanks
I think asking the client to provide feedback on the submitions is allowed. Right? Not tospecific design but helping in the design proccess.
I don't know specifically, that's why I posted here. I assume a general "please provide feedback" is ok, but not "I've uploaded an entry, please provide feedback..." not so much.
Yes that's what i meant. I see some still posting comment - "i uploaded logo please look at it". I think these comments shoud go because it's obviously that that the client knows the logo is uploaded.
Yes, if there is substance it's ok, but if it's just promoting their own logo it's not.
designer posting links to contest:
http://stocklogos.com/contest/conservenergy#new
Why not make so comments are seen by client and admin and only done so through submission? Clean it up a bit. Btw Ivan have you taken a look at design crowd or 99 dsigns? Might be a good thing to emulate what they are doing as far as the whole process and presentation. Right now it's still way behind what others are doing and fixing further could prove to be a nice financial gain.
I agree. Working on it. Tx
Will the comments be moderated?
I don't have a plan for this yet. I will share when I thought it through ok?
http://stocklogos.com/contest/camsa-0
comment by bdwdesigns
http://stocklogos.com/contest/xxyy-project
comment and link by murad
also on this contest: http://stocklogos.com/contest/uberlearncom-0
http://stocklogos.com/contest/camsa-0
comments by Mashke and cakmanson
I want to ask whether the logo should be in making use of such texture color wallpaper or the like, for example like texture watercolor, wood, glass, abstract, paper etc. and put it into the logo
examples of some of the logo of Nancy, is this use of color texture what made the original color of your?
http://stocklogos.com/logo/three-3-trees
http://stocklogos.com/logo/peace-sign-counselling
Thanks.
As long as it's vector it's ok. The linked examples are vectors.
hey!
if in a NOT blind contest, one or more participants get "inspire" from one of the well rated designs, are we allowed to report them, if so, how can we do that?
thank you!
razvan
Let me know.
This is one of the many reasons there should a hidden rating system, it just fuels 'inspiration' to be polite about it. Blind briefs all the way I say! I might actually enter them.
I've been having a dabble in the new contests section, and I must say the whole system is vastly improved. I like how a client can rate a design as liked or not liked. That's very useful, especially if you judge how a client is marking designs, you can weigh up which way to push your own submissions.
Thats if the client does actually mark them. I submitted a quick logo to the conservenergy brief and had no feedback whatsoever. Just puts you off. I don't agree with the rating system either. Sure have a rating system but don't let designers see till the end of the brief as CrowdSpring do.
It's a catch 22 situation though on the briefs. I agree that the Crowdspring system is better, but the new system on here is still a huge improvement, and a good bedrock on which to build upon. I like on how Crowdspring you can get a statistical analysis of how a client is interacting with a brief. Even if you can't see exactly how each logo is scored, you get an overview of score percentages. Maybe SL has to be careful in not doing things too similar to another site perhaps?
Still, on the few briefs I've done on here since the change, even if a client isn't being super active within it, on the one or two designs they have commented on, it's easy to get some basic judgement of what is required and what they like. Even if it does mean trawling through logos and comments to get that information. Even logos marked as not liked even without comments is still informative. I suppose it depends how much time you're willing to put into it. At the moment at work it's a bit quiet, so I have that extra time just to divulge myself, but normally I wouldn't.
You mean get 'inspired' Derren!
The brief section is just the old system with new vision. The differences are - prepaid money and quick image upload. Beside this there's nothing new. The client has no deadlines for choosing a winner, the admin doesn't inform if the contest is won or the money are given back. What i would like t osee is guaranteed contests and price range between $300-$350 package.
I think the prize is now guaranteed to the winning designer (if they choose one of course). So if it says $200, that's what the designer gets. The SL fee is deducted before hand. I think that's right? Anyone else want to chip in?
My point is that they can ask refund anytime. Every big contest site has an option the awarding a winner is guranteed and the refund option takes down.
Oh I see. Got ya! ;)
I didn't understand the last sentence. Can you rephrase?
When someone post a contest he pays the price but he still can ask money back if he's not happy with the results. This is why they advertise the "100% money back". But there is an option to guarantee the award. This means they can't ask money back and he have to award winner(pick a design) and they lose the "100% money back" . This is mentioned in the site's ToS and it's part of the contract between him and the site. He can extend the contest untill he find the right design. I've seen many sontest that are guaranteed and have been extended with months because they have agreed to the site ToS and can't get money back. They even increase the price so they can atract more designers in order to find the right design.
So in what case can client ask the money back? Never?
Now? If you are not OK with this option just tell us. For exsample - similar price contests in 99designs - the guaranteed one gets at least 100 designs more that the non guaranteed one.
You misunderstand me. I want to understand what if your proposal. So far I don't understand it. Can you please describe it again in simple terms. Sorry
Now client prepays the amount that they offer for a contest. Right? But if they don't buy design they can get their money back, you refund them the amount without the SL fee for posting a contest. Right? The option for guaranting to award a winner they lose the option for refund. This has the power of a legal contract and they have to choose winner and award the price. On 99designs if they don'f find logo they like till the end of the contest, they reopen it for a few more days untill they get what they want as design. Of course they pay for this extend.
Right now we refund fully. Including our fees. It only happened once in 40 contest. We will also suggest for an extension before refunding.
This means on 99d they do not give full refund. Right?
That's correct. When it says $200 the winner is guaranteed to get $200.
Before all the changes when it cost the client $50 (then $100) to post a contest, did they get a refund if no logos were purchased? I'm guessing they didn't.
It seems now that clients get a 100% refund, this site is just used to generate ideas – so far (as I can see) no logos have been purchased from any of the contests since the new format started.
This is totally incorrect. You're confused because the winning logos are not shown in the Sold section.
Clients do not have to purchase after the contest is closed as they pay in advance and the winner is payed from that advance payment.
Where are the winning logos shown then? It would be nice for designers to know if there is any purpose to their efforts, by knowing what % of contests are actually having a logo purchased.
I understand that the clients pay in advance, I was asking if once-upon-a-time it cost them $50 (then $100) to post a contest, and that was not refundable – right? So, even if they didn't buy a logo, they at least paid for the privilege of having designers make contributions. Whereas now, they can have ideas generated at absolutely no cost because they get a full refund. Is that correct?
Yes, currently that's a possibility. If you don't like these terms please do not participate. So far it happened once in 33 contests, so it's a 3% chance only.
You will be able to see the winners on all contests within a few hours. We just fixed the code.
Obviously that's a choice, I don't think you had to be rude about it. My concerns were based on not being aware that contest logos were actually selling – how is one to know if they couldn't be seen.
Once it is fixed, will they show up in Sold, as before?
Sorry, it came out wrong. When I suggested not to participate I just genuinely suggested it as an option I didn't mean to sound rude.
It will be ok I hope tomorrow. And yes you will be easily see the winners.
How come this contest: http://stocklogos.com/contest/baby-photoat
is on page two behind closed contests, when it is still open?
It's closed.
How do you know if a contest is closed?
It says closed above to the title.
Where? I must be blind! Is the Territory brief closed?
Yes. Closed.
Here: http://stocklogos.com/contests
Ivan it doesn't say CLOSED anywhere??
I apologize and thanks for the report. We will fix it.
I might be blind too! :o)
Ivan, is it possible that this is a bug?
When a brief is open, I see the watch icon and the time left, followed by the comments icon and total number of comments with new comments number in bold, followed by the eye icon if applicable.
When a brief is closed, all I see it the comments icon and total number of comments with new comments number in bold, followed by the eye icon if applicable.
See this screen grab: http://img79.xooimage.com/files/7/1/5/briefs-353e0c5.jpg
Peace,
Spintherism.
I've just received an e-mail from Stocklogos with the new contest; I likey...
Yes, that's an option for the clients to pay for this email. Would you want to receive it all the time?
Is it possible to opt out of such emails?
Yes, select Unsubscribe in newsletters.
You are selling our personal information, in this case our e-mails. Is this right? I may have to read the ToS again but i don't think it's right. Other sites do this using twitter, not sending direct e-mails.
The email comes from StockLogos not from the client. The client pays for the email promotion of their contest.
No, we're not selling it. Your information is safe.
I know this but actually you get money for our e-mails. Like i said other sites promote contests via twitter. What if all clients with active contests pay for the promotion?
We do Twitter/Facebook/G+ promotion for money as well. It costs $25. Emails to subscribed designers is $100.
We don't send to anyone who doesn't want these emails. If you don't want the email you just unsubscribe. Currently you're Subscribed.
If everyone payed for the promotion we would be really happy. What's wrong with that? :)
for sure, It would be great, it seems a good idea for me.
Any idea when we'll be able to see the sold contest logos?
It's already up isn't it? As in the winning logo shown on the contest page? ...
http://stocklogos.com/contest/travel-company-territory
Oh, thanks! I was looking for them under 'sold'
Not yet in sold, but it's coming there too.
Is this what everyone sees? My contest entries are now at the top of my designer page. Glad that the contests and sales areas of the site are less divided, but I'd rather my store logos and even my favorites be above my contest entries.
You should see store logos, then contest logos, then favs. Perhaps you looked at it when it was work in progress.
current screen capture: http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk395/ncarter11/sc.png
yeah same with me
Thanks. It's probably a caching issue. Will fix asap.
same here
Same here, contest logos first.
Oh! But when I look at other peoples pages it displays in the right order.
Nancy: I'm not one to step on toes...this is a bazaar comment on my logo and I think you should check it out since it refers to your work. You do nice work :-)
http://stocklogos.com/contest/brand-fanatics/99017
What's the crack with that Lonely Coast brief? No one has submitted any logos? Any reasons? I have an idea for it and don't want to submit if it's a waste of time.
It's brand new. You can submit.
Ah! I see lol. It was further down than some, that's why I asked.
I'm still hoping for the option to delete my contest entries.
In theory you should be able to.
Able to delete them when the contest is still open, but as soon as contest closes, editing of any sort is not an option.
This is the same for me too.
hello,
so is no chance to delete logos from closed contest?, Can I upload these logos again to Stocklogos, for example
with diffrent company name?
A suggestion: Perhaps when a contest is over, you can designate between "Ended" and then once a winner is chosen, you can say "Closed"? alot of people are left hanging for a while afterwards to decide the fate of the logos submitted
Good idea. Thanks
I noticed that some designers are still using outside links to show different colour variations etc.
Like here,
http://stocklogos.com/contest/humilitas-group/99058
If this is ok to do? can we have clarification please? I still think the current previews are too small to show the logosimple their best light.
No, I guess we need more education here. Thanks
Well if the links are only going back to other pages on the SL site, I don't see the issue here? Just saves the client a few clicks.
If you take a look on what I've put, I said 'outside' links.
I see. Yes, I agree that is a problem. Thanks for pointing that out.
I don't know if this has been brought up before, but, why not order the contests by date? I just started submitting to contests and find it a hassle to browse for contests that end sooner because I see contests that have a longer open period sandwiched between contests that have shorter open periods. The order is kind of a mess.
Wouldn't it be easier to have the sooner ending contests first on the list?
It would be cool if we had the option to toggle between "ending soonest", "dollar amount", etc...
Oh that sounds cool too.
Edit: And by cool I mean darn USEFUL.
OK. Will do. Thanks
Merci beaucoup, Ivan :)
This contest needs your attention please: http://stocklogos.com/contest/central-texas-custom-gutters
Ivan, please control this mess:
http://stocklogos.com/contest/onroad-systems-0
Someone posts links to own profile. Other post links with rar file (that can be a virus too).
Thanks,
paint.box
Ivan, there is a bug with blind contests. Althought the design are not visible, when you go to user's profile you can see submitions from blind active contests. When you click on such design it doesn't open it but the design is still visible.
Thanks, I will fix.
Yeah!!!! even i can see logo when I visit to user's account.
It looks like this guy has posted a link to his portfolio on every contest: http://stocklogos.com/user/domibit
That's actually not the worst part. In another contest this same guy also posted a link to another logo/stock marketplace where he sells logos for like 29 bucks.
I really hope the client didn't see it. This sort of thing needs controlling.
Awful. I say it's like that old baseball song..."Well It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're out at the old contest" :-)
I gave him a warning. If he keeps on doing it he will be blocked. Thanks
Maybe all the new designers have been warned not to post their portfolios into the contest, it could just keep.
Hey,
when the "delete" option will be available for the uploaded logos on contests that are closed?
Thank you!
+1
Is it permissible to remove the logo before the contest closes to sell it to the store logo, and how do I remove the logo contest, which was already closed and I don't see any edit page to remove the logo on the contest which is already closed, but if the contest has not yet been closed can still be edited or deleted.
You can post it to the store at any point in time. It's your logo, you have the rights to it.
Just to be clear, when you say "at any point in time". Do you mean to say that it is okay to have the same exact logo on the store and on a contest simultaneously? What about having the same logo on more than one contest? I'm just curious about all possibilities.
Yes, you can.
We should be able to delete the logo at any time even the contest is closed!
Example:
If the client decides to award one of your entries you participated with in their contest, but you already adjusted the text on that entry and use the same design for other brief, cause that client delayed to award a winner, and you won the new contest, wouldn't be fair for everyone to be able to delete the design in the delayed client response contest, before this might happen?
Thank you!
Razvan
The option to delete entries when a contest is closed is really necessary.
Let's say that after that contest has ended, I were to sell that design to an outside client of mine, and it's all good, but what happens when that client accidentally stumbles upon an entry in some online contest (which happens to be the same design you sold him but couldn't delete it from there).
If we truly hold all rights to our logos we should be able to have deletion control at any point.
PLEASE?
We should hide them automatically after some time. Admins will have access to them in case there is a dispute or problem, but they will not be shown publicly.
Well that just makes me not want to enter contests anymore. I want to have full control of my artwork.
That's true. Thinking more...
I appreciate that :)
+1
Seems like a non-issue to me. If the contest ends and you are waiting for a decision, then you shouldn't offer that logo to another client unless it was NOT Liked/Off Brief in the contest. If you don't win, then you CAN offer it up to a client regardless of the fact that it still shows under the contest you lost.
On another note, it does seem to take a long time for some clients to make a decision or decide that no logo was liked. What's the time limit on the client once a contest is over? I know we can't force them but it seems we need some type of update at least 1 week later? Is that reasonable?
Well that's the thing :) I'm not offering my client a logo that is waiting for a resolution in a contest. It's a contest that has ended and already has a winner. Logo rights are mine, so if my personal client does end up buying said logo from me, I don't want it appearing anywhere else under a different name or whatever. It's my artwork and I'd like to have full control if it because in the end that's what my client will most likely want as well, especially after he becomes the sole owner of such logo. I don't want his lawyers randomly stumbling upon my contest entry and being like "what the heck" and then having to go through a whole process for clarifying the situation.
If someone who participates in a contest chooses to leave their logos there, that's their decision, but I'd like to have the option to permanently delete them.
Yes, but once you upload for a contest it's reasonable for the contest holder to assume he can buy your logo. And you wouldn't want to pull it before he made up his mind. We need to find a good balance.
How about this...As soon as the contest ends, give the contest holder an option to "release" all not liked/off brief logos so each designer can take it down at that point?
You're over complicating things. Designer should be able to delete/withdraw his/her entry - period. There should never be a situation where we are dictated by the contest holder or website administrator what to do with our designs. And I have to emphasize again that I'm feeling rather frustrated for not being able to simply delete two of my contest entries from contests that have ended long ago and have picked winners.
Exactly. The owner of the rights to a logo should decide where and when his/her logo lives or dies. It's for this very reason that I've decided not to enter contests anymore. If entering contests means giving up some measure of control over my designs, then I'm not up for it.
I do respect your opinions :-) However, I think it's more of an issue of "decision making" versus "control". The last admin comment said it best. If you decide to upload it then you are committing to offer it to the contest holder first. You can't have your cake and eat it to...If the contest is over and you did not win, what does it matter that it's still visible? You can still offer it to another client. I can respect the decision not to enter if that's your choice :-) You guys have enough talent to create another logo from what I can see!
Just email me for now, I can delete them for you. And I agree actually.
That would be the next best thing, I guess. I really hope you can delete my two contest entries.
I know of no other contest site that doesn't allow you to withdraw your entries at any time -- during or after contest.
Exactly!
Is there a danger if we allow designers to change their contest entries even after the contest is closed? Not just deleting, but editing too?
Personally I don't see a point in editing entries for closed contests. Deletion is useful, edition not so much. If someone wants to edit their contest logo they might as well make the desired changes, delete it from the contest and upload it as a store logo. That's me, though :)
The ability to edit/remove would be great but why would we need it after the contest ends? Is that to help the client decide? It would be a shame to make several edits for a contest after it ends, only to have the client pick another winner or NOT pick any winner.
As for current CLOSED contests...there seems to be a number of contest in limbo? Any decisions made on any of these yet?
When the winner is chosen you will be able to see the winner.
I want to delete two contest entries and actually i'll change the design a bit and i ll upload it to the store, but i think it is essential not to be there on the contest page because if it is, i am obliged to have the same price as the budget of the contest. Please reconsider the option of deletion.
what I did was give the links to the admin trought the chat window...and he deleted them
Same here :)
what I did was give the links to the admin trought the chat window...and he deleted them
RULE: "This ... doesn't give the designers a permission to copy each other's concepts."
Kinda irritated at the tree and tree/people entries. The contest is utterly unrelated to trees, the brief doesn't even mention growth or something like. Neither has the CH favorited any similar designs. This is the concept I brought to the contest and I should be able to freely explore it without infringement from other contributors.
Please remove entries not following the no-concept-copying rule.
Thanks
Agree!!!
That's why a "Report Design" button is necessary!
Whoops! I didn't link to the contest. http://stocklogos.com/contest/my-parenting-consultant
I agree! This seems to be happening in a few contest. It's only valid if the client request those specific elements in all designs.
Admis please respond. Thanks.
We will have the report button asap. Thanks
By the way. Where are we on the option to delete our own entries in contests? Is it being considered at all, or has it being thrown out the window?
Thanks.
I have asked the admin several times to delete almost all my entries, and he did it, but I still want to delete my designs at any time!
Same here. Ivan has been kind enough to do this for me as well, but I don't really see why we need to bother him with this. It should be basic functionality. It's about the designer having control of their own artwork.
As Nancy already mentioned (and as I've experienced firsthand too), no other contest site holds back designers from deleting their own entries regardless of whether it's during the contest or after it has ended. Not having that ability here is sort of baffling.
To be honest, I kinda want to enter contests here again :/ That's why I'm revisiting the topic.
Ivan, any comments on the issue?
Thanks in advance.
You should be able to delete it now.
Entries for the blind contest Strawberry IT are visible on designers' pages.
That's the case on every blind contest. This bug was pointed out by paint.box on the "more-updates" thread, nine days ago: http://stocklogos.com/topic/more-updates#comment-104992
Ivan, do you have an update on this?
This has been fixed theoretically. Please confirm.
Ivan, as of now, this bug is back. On user profiles, the logo submissions for open blind contests are now visible.
It seems like a few folks are trying to copy ideas or come very close to it once a logo has been "liked" by a client. I must say that this is so wrong on so many levels. When I see a logo concept liked, read the client comments, that idea is then off limits for me. At best, maybe you can pick up on the colors mentioned in the comments but not the design direction. People with no original ideas have no place in any contest!
I have to agree. I think that as contests in this site get more and more participation some new functionalities will need to be established, particularly ground rules and policies regarding copy cats. Copying is not OK.
One thing that I've seen has worked well in another contest site is that comments made between client and designer within the individual design page aren't visible to others during the contest. Maybe this could be implemented here as well?
I agree. However we just don't have the resources to check every single submission. We will have a report button for this purpose soon and we will check those that are reported. Hope that will solve the issue.
Yeah, I think that's a terrific start and will definitely be useful. Cheers!
Sounds good to me. Thanks
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Hello Ivan,
Back in May, you said "DO NOT POST A LINK to your logo or ask for feedback in comments. The comments are strictly for asking questions to clarify the contest". [caps are from original quote on opening post]
Some designers are still using the comment section of contests to post links to their logos and to ask for feedback.
It is fairly rare, but it happens. The comment section of contests should be monitored.
Peace,
Spintherism.
I agree with Spintherism
I've seen it. but many ignore it,,
this should be dealt with firmly so as not to be repeated by anyone.
I agree. Except, it's not a rare occurrence at all. It happens in almost every contest. I'm not going to name names, just check for yourself and you'll see a few designers in particular.
Please enforce this rule better.
Two months ago (when that post was written), it was fairly rare. But today, as you said, it happens in almost every contest.
Ivan, would it be possible to analyze/validate comments automatically? So, if a contest comment has a URL then the user gets an error.
Peace,
Spintherism.
Ivan, I know I have suggested this already.... but here I go again.....
I suggest that:
All Contest should be "BLIND" till that contest ends.
Only then will all the logos be revealed.
By Stocklogo Rules & default, all Contest should be "BLIND CONTEST"
What do you get in return:
• Better designs
• More variety to choose from
• No more copy cats, since they can't see your design.
• Problem Solved.
• Everyone is happy, except of course the "copy cats".
My 2 cents!
Peace!
The situation with the SIN APPS contest really sucks! I think admin should be able to kick people out of contest for unprofessional conduct. I totally agree with the client comments on that one and I was working on ideas before deadline. I do understand why it ended early but in the future, the rest of the designer's should not have to suffer because of a few idiots.
Hi, I am new here and submitted entries on few logo contests. I just wanted to delete my entries on the ended contest but i could not find any delete or withraw button. Help me please..thank you
Go to your account (by clicking on "My account" on the top right), then click on the "Manage" tab. On the manage page, under "Contest Logos", you will see a "delete" option next to each contest logo ("operation" column).
Peace,
Spintherism.