I recently found this site and thought it would be a good place to make use of some of the logos I have that clients had rejected for whatever reason so well done for creating that.
Now the good stuff is out of the way I have a few points/questions that are related to each other.
1) admin rules and uniformity
I uploaded half a dozen logos earlier and some have gone though with no modificaion, some have had the keywords altered while others with similar keywords have gone through unadjusted (those that have been adjusted have removed words I have selected from your list and been replaced with words that are not on the list such as 'green')
One went through fine with the company name as 'trading name' while another was rejected because it had the company name as 'company name'.
Is there some checklist the admins should be working to so that all decisions are the same and it is not a lottery as to whether you logo goes through on the first go?
Is there some secret list of keywords we can get access to? If you give us a list of industry types we think the logo would suit don't be surprised of we select a lot of them. Wiping them all and adding unlisted words just makes the whole thing a waste of time.
As a side note I would be interested to know why there is an insistance on creating a fake company name (something I will admit to not noticing until I got the rejection). Most template vendors use 'company name' or similar as a standard and there is the small possibility of making up a fake name only to discover it actually exists somewhere. I am sure a customer can work out where their name goes.
2) Alteration of artwork by admins
As I mentioned some of my logos were accepted as is, and some had some alterations. Among these alterations were changing the company name in the preview to the file name. I understand in pat why this was done (see comment above) but not when it significantly alters the artwork.
Take this example:
Submitted
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As you can see there is a marked difference in the text with larger capitals and, most importantly, a change in letterspacing which makes a marked difference to the feel of the finished item.
This really is a no-no. As a designer I take great care to ensure my design is as I think it should be. We can argue subjectively as to whether it is good or not until we are blue in the face but that is not the issue. That is my artwork with my name against it. It is now not as intended and that affects its saleability in my opinion.
I do not wish to come over as a crybaby because I had something rejected. I could not care less about that. I am a designer. I get good stuff rejected all the time.
I just feel that if you are going to do something then the moderation should be:
a) uniform
b) not interfering with the artwork (if its wrong, send it back. Don't fix it.)
Thoughts?
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I just wanted to help you adding the company name, but you can edit it and add you own version. Sorry about changing it.
We need the fictitious company name, because it just looks and feels better. It sells better too.
Regarding categories. Some logos apply up to 10 industries if it's very generic. Others only to two or one. Some designers select too many, in this case I remove those selection because that way categories lose relevance.
Please read this and make sure you answer yes to all of these questions before you upload your files:
• Have you used the StockLogos template file?
• Have you used a fictitious company name? • Have you used the CMYK color space?
• Have you created outlines of all fonts?
• Have you centered the logo on the template page?
• Have you made the logo fill the page but left the margins empty?
• Is your .png file sized at 2000x2000px with transparent background?
• Is your .eps file saved as Illustrator EPS 8 format?
Thank you very much!
As I said I have only recently found the site and I don't know how long you have been going but I am guessing from you adding new features and from the date of the earliest logo it is not long.
As such you probably need feedback to ensure everything runs smoothly and the site grows.
If we should only add 10 industries tell us we should only pick 10.
If we can add other keywords give us a text field where we can add comma seperated keywords.
I dont know how many people you have checking and editing the logos* but it can't be very efficient. As the fonts are outlined you need to work out what the font was, get hold of it if you dont have it installed already, edit the artwork, resave. Just flip it back to the submitter saying where the error is. However, I am saying that all moderators should be rejecting and allowing the same things.
Like I posted in the original, I am not wishing to come across as all red-faced and shouty with spittle spraying over my keyboard as I type as that is not the case.
I am trying to make comments that hopefully help all.
*(is the admin login you post under a group admin account or one person? Who are the admins? Maybe their account should have some sort of icon so we know who is running the show - clearly if it is just you the point is moot)
There is just one admin and that's me. Real name is Ivan Raszl. :) There is one designer who helps me with comments moderation: molumen. We also have a programmers and system admins.
Thanks for your feedback and I'm not trying to defend the policies either I'm just explaining and taking notes from your comments.
There is no set number of categories a logo can belong to, it can be 1 or 20 theoretically. There is a comma separated field but I fill that in myself to keep consistency. Otherwise we will have too many variations of the same word which would make the tagging less efficient.
I don't understand what you're saying about the fonts. They should be all outlined. This is the rule. Please explain again!
Thanks again! I appreciate the help!
What I meant was if you, as admin, want to change the text you cant as they are outlines. So you have to work out what font was used, get hold of it, change the text, create outlines, resave etc etc.
Glad you are taking the comments as intended :)
Got it. Usually this is not a problem. In fact it never was a problem. 50% of the time the designer does this change for the client, other times I did and I could locate the font instantly.
We can't include fonts for legal reasons. You're encouraged to use standard fonts that come with the system.